How did you do with that 22 minute boundary exercise?
I did well with the exercise, I felt good having completed another task. This sorting and packing is exhausting, to sad and tiring, but it needs to be done. So I packed books and DVDs and put them in the back of my closet. Empowered? I don’t know about that right now, but it kept my brain busy.
I hope it empowered
you a bit. When I’m low in motivation, I always get my “get up and go” back by
small steps – this is a neat way to help with that… albeit a small way.
We’re nearly ready to move forward in having you join us in the forum. We’ll be
sending you an invitation to a secret private Strength & Dignity group on
Facebook. If you don’t have a Facebook account, that’s okay. Create one. We
suggest using a false identity if you are at all concerned about people recognizing
you. I don’t use one, but I totally understand if you want to be anonymous.
We will eventually move this class off of Facebook onto the Greater Impact
website, but that takes longer to set up and we need the funding to create the
space. For now, know you are just a couple of modules away from joining the
class group. We’ll be discussing the homework, so catch up if you’ve fallen
behind. A day or so more of prep work will help you before you get there.
Before you join us in the Facebook group, I’d really appreciate it if you would print
this post and keep it somewhere to read a few times. It’s pretty chewy and you’ll
need to first understand what I’m saying here, and second, be ready to make a
solid decision about whether you want to move forward with us. What we’re
suggesting women do is counter cultural.
Here’s the link to the post: http://ninaroesner.com/2016/01/11/if-you-arefeeling-worthless-or-alone-in-your-marriage/ SEE BELOW
Feel free to ask questions on the blog, or in the comments. I’ll make sure we address them in the class.
You will also begin getting blog posts from me in your mailbox if you don’t already
subscribe. Here’s why: we’re doing the Respect Dare journey. The counter
cultural thing we suggest you do is set boundaries AND respect. So be a Biblical
wife, while establishing boundaries. You’ll notice things other people who aren’t
studying this won’t. Our goal is to not have you join the 2% who save their
marriage by following traditional secular and Christian advice, but instead, to turn
your marriage around. Just this week, I’ve been floored by the women I know
and what they have gone through to change their marriages… I want that for
Please do NOT have the “boundaries” discussion with your husband yet. We’ll
let you know more about that soon. We also do NOT recommend establishing
boundaries in your marriage yet – just a few more days and we’ll have that info
out to you.
Love to you,
If you are feeling worthless or alone in your marriage…
If you are feeling worthless and alone in your marriage, I want to give you HOPE today.
Even if your marriage is “okay.”
Especially if your marriage is “awful.”
And really if your marriage is “full of conflict,” “mean-ness,” hurt, or even verbal/emotional abuse.
And I hope that if you understand what I’m about to say, and aren’t offended by it (please hear me out – don’t judge!), that you’ll share it wildly with others.
There’s something we haven’t been aware of.
There’s a trend in our culture to label everything – and to espouse answers from positions of the extremes. If you are in a marriage where you have some of the signs but know your husband doesn’t want to hurt or dominate you, then there’s something you should know.
Here it is: if you ONLY do the Respect Dare, you may be teaching your husband to take advantage of you – especially if you have some of the “signs” mentioned below. He might get complacent, take you for granted, and add to your burden. If he’s a God-fearing, God-loving, spiritually mature man who lives to delight God, however, and you do the Respect Dare, he will likely respond like Toni’s husband did:
Twenty-three years ago l married my high school sweetheart. And I grabbed the reins of our marriage and never looked back. We have a good marriage; he is a kind, loving, caring man. He understood his part of Ephesians 5:25 (Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her). I did not understand my God-given role as his wife. As I began to search for help in becoming a more godly wife, I found Nina’s blog and her book, The Respect Dare. I ordered it and then signed up for the e-course. I am so glad I did! I don’t want a good marriage- I want a FANTASTIC marriage, and to have that I need to follow God’s plan.
Respecting my husband is part of that plan (Ephesians 5:33). As I worked through the 40 Dares I began to take a hard look at myself. Each Dare helped me to learn about what God wants for me, and then helped me think about how I behave in our marriage. I never realized that how I communicate with my husband is often viewed as disrespectful to him (and other men). The Respect Dare gave me a daily reminder to stop and think about my words and actions. As I began to change, I noticed that my husband was responding to me differently (and he had no idea I was doing the Respect Dare, that was my little secret). He became even more affectionate, helped me with kitchen chores so that I could join him for time together sooner and talked to me more (because I was finally truly listening!). Our relationship became a cycle – I acted more respectfully and found ways to support him, he in turn acted more loving and found ways to provide for and protect me, making me respect and support him even more. As I have worked to trust God in all areas of my life, my marriage included, I have seen my marriage grow and blossom and my heart has become calm. Thank you!
Praise God with me? 🙂 So in honor of good marriages working toward GREAT! and struggling marriages working toward GOOD – and ALL marriages working toward glorifying God, we’re going through the dares again. Last week we did Dare 1: Expectations. Today we’re on Dare #2:
So I’m going to suggest today that we fear GOD, instead of fearing our husbands.
I know too many of you know what I mean. I’m sorry. I might be able to help you. Check the following “signs” below – if you have those in addition to a bit or a lot of fear, join the Strength & Dignity course. It’s free. (check the sign up button to the right of the blog—-> 🙂 ) I can’t take a ton of time here on this blog for those issues, but they need to be addressed. (also, if you are already a strong woman, maybe dominating in your marriage, you might read this for Dare 1, too)
Sign #1 –
If you have emotional control and you go to him and say something like, “I know you love me, and I know you didn’t mean to, but when you did ‘A’ it made me feel ‘B’ and I’m really struggling with what to do about that,” and he responds by discounting your feelings, arguing with you, defending what he did, minimizing or mocking you, and then maybe turns the discussion into how you’ve hurt him and you’re the one apologizing, and this is how it goes most of the time? Then guess what? You have some REALLY unhealthy stuff going on – things that can damage a person’s soul, things that are labeled as “abuse.” This post covers what should happen instead in those situations.
Sign #2 –
If you are excited about something good that happens to you, or you have an interest that feeds your soul and you are met with degrading, mocking, put downs, name-calling, or other remarks that make the clear point that there’s something wrong with you or what you like or the good thing, this is also unhealthy and harming to another person. This post covers this in more detail. Ideally, BOTH spouses should be enthusiastic and supportive of the other – regardless of how different or similar or threatened they personally feel.
Sign #3 –
When you are sad, sick, discouraged, etc., and demeaned or dismissed instead of being treated kindly, or when your spouse behaves in an unkind way toward you regardless of how you are feeling – the absence of kindness (If anyone knows the good he should do and does not do it, sins James 4:17) or the presence of unkindness is also damaging. More here.
Here’s the problem with labeling these things as “abuse” – the culture we live in recognizes “abusers” as people of heinous motives. The linked “sign” posts above assume he’s trying to control, trying to coerce, trying to manipulate.
I don’t believe the majority of Christian men are doing that. I really don’t think they intend to do that.
This would never fly in a marriage, but how often have you seen men work out their issues with each other by physically going after each other in basketball, etc.? I don’t get it, but it’s a thing. They don’t naturally do conflict the way we do. I’m not excusing their behavior in marriage, nor am I intending to discount abuse victims (I’ve been one, remember? This post barely skims the surface of the torture of my school years, nor does it cover the rape…) but I’m asking us to be wise enough, afraid of God enough, to see the whole picture, not just see what things look like from only our own perspectives. That is also mature, healthy behavior.
Sorry. I digress.
What needs to also be said is simply this: there’s another category of behaviors, a continuum, where unhealthy behavior exists at a high enough level (and often absent of enough positives to over-ride the negatives) that have the effect of abuse on the person experiencing the relationship that way – even if the abuser isn’t intending to do harm.
In other words, esteem is destroyed – as is the case in the traditionally labeled “abuse” case – and the behavior may be classified as “abusive” BUT – the motives of the abuser aren’t evil, and too often, the “victim” (and I’m using quotes out of respect for those women who truly are victims, ones who are being beaten on a daily basis and those women who are raped in their homes, etc.) the “victim” in these other situations is actually contributing to the high levels of conflict and abusive behavior by responding in kind, AND by lacking healthy boundaries.
In other words, if we will learn how to stop responding abusively back (did you know that “silence” and “lack of affection” – natural responses to being screamed at – are also abusive behaviors?) and set healthy boundaries for ourselves, not as a parental and punitive response to our husband, if we’ll do those things, we can change our marriages. I know this to be true.
Want more proof?
I personally know women who have been in these situations, some which classify as legitimate abuse, including some with husbands whose motives were even questionable – and they’ve overcome these situations and God has healed them and their marriages!!!
The other thing we need to remember is that Shaunti Feldhahn’s research in “The Surprising Secrets of Highly Happy Marriages” shows that “thinking the best” and “giving the benefit of the doubt” are MAJORLY important. (I don’t get any benefit by telling you this, but if you haven’t read her work, you should get your hands on “For Women Only,” at the very least, plus the above book, plus “The Male Factor.” If you don’t understand how men think, reading anything Shaunti’s written will help.
So know this: if you label your husband as an “abuser” and yourself as the “victim” but he really does NOT MEAN TO BE DESTROYING YOU – even if his behavior IS – you are adding an element of toxicity to your marriage that will infect it like a plague. Seriously. What will keep you going if you believe he is determined to destroy you? I’m betting he’s not. Most of the men I talk to who have hurt their wives have done so unintentionally. (know that if your husband DOES intend to hurt you, control you, destroy you, then you are dealing with a sociopath, and that is way beyond what the scope of anything we do here will ever be able to cover – get professional help)
So what I’m saying is there’s actually something we can DO about unhealthy behaviors – including the ones from others that destroy our esteem.
So that brings in serious HOPE. That’s what the Strength & Dignity course is about. (I’m sorry if this feels like an “advertisement” – it’s not. I’m simply trying to help us all understand the difference and segregate my audience so I can best serve my audience – the vast majority (and I think this includes those in unhealthy relationships) want info on respect. That’s what this space is for. Let’s get healing and help on the other items in the S&D course! 🙂 )
There’s also this whole new “victim-hood” biz on college campuses with “safe-zones” for those who are feeling abused because the school cafeteria’s cultural food isn’t authentic enough … or all that other stuff that actually demeans people who are REALLY abused. Granted there are issues, but I’d prefer the term “discrimination” or “culturally lacking” instead of “abuse victim” because it carries with it an assumption of motive.
Here’s my point:
Interactions with your husband may leave you feeling worthless, suicidal, damaged – BUT he may or may not be intentionally “abusing you.” If he claims to be a Christian man, there are things you can do about this – and it’s not what you think.
It’s a combination of healthy boundaries (by first understanding what they are and knowing how to implement them) AND respect for him WHILE respecting yourself.
I started the FREE Strength & Dignity course to deal with this topic in a meaningful and life changing way. I see too many families being destroyed by good people who mean well who are missing some healthy alternatives to interaction AND are being coached in all the defensive ways to deal with being “abused” or “get control” of their families – these tactics “work” by getting them to safety, BUT – the marriage is destroyed. I want better options than that for you and I know they are out there…
I don’t want to take blog space for the majority of my audience who just wants to learn how to respect their husbands and talk about Biblical marriage issues covering what we can do if we’re feeling like a doormat. I REALLY believe that it’s a situation where BOTH self-respect and respecting our husband is important.
That’s a lot, right?
Sorry if it’s too much. Got thoughts? CHIME IN!!! 🙂 I can’t wait to discuss this with you today!